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747 Cargolux emergency landing

Old 15th May 2023, 19:43
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Originally Posted by atakacs
Does anyone remember a similar incident with a 747 (whatever type)?
I can remember a restriction on nosewheel steering angle on A330/340 aircraft due to excessive wear from pivoting around one leg on turnrounds.
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Old 16th May 2023, 15:50
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A testament to the skill of the engineers & designers of the 747 this!

not too sure I’d like to see it happen to a 777F though… 🤔
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Old 16th May 2023, 17:48
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Originally Posted by tubby linton
I can remember a restriction on nosewheel steering angle on A330/340 aircraft due to excessive wear from pivoting around one leg on turnrounds.
To the point of severing the landing gear ?
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Old 16th May 2023, 21:46
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Originally Posted by atakacs
To the point of severing the landing gear ?
I would imagine the point of the restriction was to avoid that possibility.
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Old 16th May 2023, 22:31
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Originally Posted by atakacs
To the point of severing the landing gear ?
Seem to remember that the A340 steering restrictions came in after this Sabena incident https://aviation-safety.net/database...?id=19980829-1 .....which did sheer the MLG.

As for the CargoLux....just wondering if it could be a tilt actuator failure or failure of supply pressure to it so the gear presented at incorrect angle on touchdown?

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Old 17th May 2023, 07:08
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So as far as the 747 is concerned this seems to be a pretty unique incident?
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Old 17th May 2023, 07:47
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Originally Posted by Tom Sawyer
Seem to remember that the A340 steering restrictions came in after this Sabena incident https://aviation-safety.net/database...?id=19980829-1 .....which did sheer the MLG.

As for the CargoLux....just wondering if it could be a tilt actuator failure or failure of supply pressure to it so the gear presented at incorrect angle on touchdown?
Tilt actuator fail likely compounded by uphill slope on RWY06
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Old 18th May 2023, 05:32
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For those above, note:- B747 main Wing gear has tilt actuator, and body gear, has body gear steering actuators!

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Old 18th May 2023, 13:15
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Originally Posted by aeromech3
For those above, note:- B747 main Wing gear has tilt actuator, and body gear, has body gear steering actuators!
It is getting on 20 years since I really worked the 74, but there is a body gear truck positioning actuator which fulfills the tilt actuator purpose on the forward side of the bogie. To what extent a failure may cause a situation as under discussion, I'm not sure. Certain that if the BLG is not tilted, it prevents all gear retraction, so there must be a tilt actuator function to ensure this, hence the truck position actuator?
As you mentioned the BLG steering system, I guess it is also feasible that a yoke failure or disconnection, or an actuator structural failure could possibly cause the bogie to present at the wrong angle.
Like I said, been a while so I maybe incorrect?
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Revision of B747 main landing gears




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Old 18th May 2023, 17:44
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All be it a -400 schematic


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Old 18th May 2023, 19:51
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Truck vs Bogie. As far as I know only Boeing refers to this as truck. Every other manufacturer (Douglas, Lockheed, Convair, Airbus) called it a Bogie.
Looking at the pictures in the AvHerald a couple of things standout.
1. In the view of the bogie in the grass the inner cylinder of the shock absorber is clearly fractured. Also the upper end of the lower torque link is ruptured where it connected to the spindle that connected it to the steering actuators.
2. In the picture of the rear of the RH Body gear the steering actuators are intact as is the vertical pin that connects the actuators to the spindle that in turn connects to the lower torque link. Said spindle appears to be intact with the nut that secures the lower torque link still in place. The spindle is now hanging vertically.
I have never heard of either of these parts fracturing before and the spindle appears to be complete so if the torque links did not became disconnected what initiated such a huge failure? I doubt a truck positioner fault could cause such a failure mode.

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Old 19th May 2023, 08:53
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Brittleness

The steel alloy the landing gear is made of is very sensitive to hydrogen.
When hydrogen molecules penetrate the material, which can happen when the chrome coating is damaged, a phenomenon called Hydrogen Brittleness will occur.
This causes tension and subsequent cracking of the part.

My educated guess is failure of the gear inner cylinder, preventing gear retraction after T/O.
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