Ryanair Nosegear Collapse
There is another Ryanair landing at DUB on YT, where things get pretty hairy bouncing around with nearly a wing strike (probably more a pod strike, given the B737). Though, I am not sure, whether this is the same airplane at the same landing. Though, it might explain the Nose wheel structure failure.
Avherald maintains that the aircraft left the runway, but that doesn't appear to be supported by the ADS-B track, so I don't know what Simon's analysis is based on.
There was no excursion afaik. Plenty of photos of what remains of the nose gear strut on tarmac available in final resting position. Some people put far too much faith in ADSB accuracy, especially on the ground where amateur antennas likely have no line of sight of the airfame.
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Although I'm not a fan of Ryanair and don't fly with them, I would certainly not question their safety record. But, to answer your question: no, I would not become concerned about flying in the future after a burst tyre incident.
The response time, depending on exactly when ATC were aware of the situation and hit the crash alarm, to the first RFFS truck being in position was about 2 minutes. That is an acceptable time (3 minutes is the maximum permisibble) from an unprepared standing start, in 30 ton trucks from a station likely over a mile away.
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That implies that the crew were aware of the problem prior to landing. If that were the case, the crash vehicles would have been alerted and would have been there a lot quicker.
What does not seem to have emerged is:-
Did the crew know they had a problem and notify ATC, or did they suddenly have a gear failure when they lowered the nosewheel onto the runway?
What does not seem to have emerged is:-
Did the crew know they had a problem and notify ATC, or did they suddenly have a gear failure when they lowered the nosewheel onto the runway?
I would imagine that the noise and vibration created by half a NLG leg attempting to scribe a groove in the runway would strike most regular travellers as being somewhat out-of-the-ordinary.
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I would imagine that the noise and vibration created by half a NLG leg attempting to scribe a groove in the runway would strike most regular travellers as being somewhat out-of-the-ordinary.
The headline on the first video says "Huge Sparks", but I could only see normal ones. I guess Ryan Air will be checking their tyre treads more rigorously from now on.
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There was no excursion afaik. Plenty of photos of what remains of the nose gear strut on tarmac available in final resting position. Some people put far too much faith in ADSB accuracy, especially on the ground where amateur antennas likely have no line of sight of the airfame.
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I can't see anything on YouTube that claims to show the touchdown(s), only the rollout with sparks already flying.
Avherald maintains that the aircraft left the runway, but that doesn't appear to be supported by the ADS-B track, so I don't know what Simon's analysis is based on.
Avherald maintains that the aircraft left the runway, but that doesn't appear to be supported by the ADS-B track, so I don't know what Simon's analysis is based on.
Though it certainly shows, things can be rough at DUB, with these tailwind landings.
that Ryanair landing looks more like they forget to continue to fly the wing after touchdown.
Did the crew know they had a problem and notify ATC, or did they suddenly have a gear failure when they lowered the nosewheel onto the runway?
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Thank you . An answer, instead of a lot of puerile sniping
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I asked this back in post 16, and no-one has come up with the answer.
YouTube has a recording of the ATC comms that makes it clear there was no prior warning of the event.
Originally Posted by oxenos View Post
I asked this back in post 16, and no-one has come up with the answer.
YouTube has a recording of the ATC comms that makes it clear there was no prior warning of the event.
A question for someone current on the 737:
If the nose gear collapses unexpectedly during the landing roll, should the ground spoilers be retracted and the thrust reversers be stowed as memory items?
I remember that is the correct configuration for a planned event.
If the nose gear collapses unexpectedly during the landing roll, should the ground spoilers be retracted and the thrust reversers be stowed as memory items?
I remember that is the correct configuration for a planned event.
