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Old 10th Apr 2023, 12:42
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Morning all,

Im surprised there isn’t a discussion running about this yet?

https://avherald.com/h?article=50796916&opt=0
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Old 10th Apr 2023, 14:20
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Caught on camera..

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I love the way they try to vacate. They probably didn’t want to get yelled at by ATC………..
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I bet they still played that bloody fanfare on arrival.🤣🤣🤣
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Most probably charged the pax for the bus to the terminal
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I love the way they try to vacate. They probably didn’t want to get yelled at by ATC………..
assuming of course that they still had steering authority from the damaged nosewheel assembly
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Why can they never resist distorting the truth?​​​​​

Ryanair said in a statement that the plane experienced "a minor technical issue" with its nose landing gear upon landing.
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What worries me is the time it took for the fire services to arrive
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Originally Posted by Locked door
Morning all,

Im surprised there isn’t a discussion running about this yet?

https://avherald.com/h?article=50796916&opt=0
Why does the title say nose gear collapse?
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Lol, no reversers
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No reverse thrust and at least in the latter part of the roll, looking from behind no ground spoilers either…
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Old 10th Apr 2023, 18:52
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Originally Posted by WB627
What worries me is the time it took for the fire services to arrive
They arrived eventually, albeit after the runway excursion:

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No reverse thrust and at least in the latter part of the roll, looking from behind no ground spoilers either…
Exactly what I thought, which would suggest motor memory overload actions.
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The response time, depending on exactly when ATC were aware of the situation and hit the crash alarm, to the first RFFS truck being in position was about 2 minutes. That is an acceptable time (3 minutes is the maximum permisibble) from an unprepared standing start, in 30 ton trucks from a station likely over a mile away.
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Old 10th Apr 2023, 23:53
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Originally Posted by Confusious
Why can they never resist distorting the truth?​​​​​ Ryanair said in a statement that the plane experienced "a minor technical issue" with its nose landing gear upon landing.
Not defending Ryanair. But there doesn't appear to be any damage to the airframe, just the nose gear. No passengers or crew injured, and a nose gear change is 8 to 10 hours assuming they have a spare versus writing off the airframe. That would qualify as minor in my books
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Originally Posted by oceancrosser
No reverse thrust and at least in the latter part of the roll, looking from behind no ground spoilers either…
That is the correct config for a partial gear landing (no reverse or ground spoilers unless landing distance critical, which it wouldn't be at Dublin).
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That is the correct config for a partial gear landing
That implies that the crew were aware of the problem prior to landing. If that were the case, the crash vehicles would have been alerted and would have been there a lot quicker.
What does not seem to have emerged is:-
Did the crew know they had a problem and notify ATC, or did they suddenly have a gear failure when they lowered the nosewheel onto the runway?
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Old 11th Apr 2023, 08:53
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Originally Posted by Confusious
They arrived eventually, albeit after the runway excursion:
The ADS-B track would suggest that all three gears remained (only just) on the paved surface.


There is a slight discontinuity in the altitude plots which may be an artifact or may indicate a bounce. Have there been any reports about whether/where the missing lower half of the NLG has been found?
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Old 11th Apr 2023, 08:54
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Not defending Ryanair.
. why not - flew with them recently and they were great. On time friendly crew, ops looked good.

Just measure your bag before you go and buy what you need.

Looks like everything here was correctly handled. And yes minor. People need reassurance when flying sometimes.
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Originally Posted by DaveReidUK
The ADS-B track would suggest that all three gears remained (only just) on the paved surface.


There is a slight discontinuity in the altitude plots which may be an artifact or may indicate a bounce. Have there been any reports about whether/where the missing lower half of the NLG has been found?
There is another Ryanair landing at DUB on YT, where things get pretty hairy bouncing around with nearly a wing strike (probably more a pod strike, given the B737). Though, I am not sure, whether this is the same airplane at the same landing. Though, it might explain the Nose wheel structure failure.
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Old 11th Apr 2023, 12:57
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Originally Posted by oxenos
That implies that the crew were aware of the problem prior to landing. If that were the case, the crash vehicles would have been alerted and would have been there a lot quicker.
What does not seem to have emerged is:-
Did the crew know they had a problem and notify ATC, or did they suddenly have a gear failure when they lowered the nosewheel onto the runway?
Good point. I was originally under the impression it was a precautionary landing but it appears to have been an issue during a routine landing.

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