Passenger on Challenger Jet Dies from Turbulence
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Passenger on Challenger Jet Dies from Turbulence
A passenger aboard a Challenger business jet died after the aircraft hit turbulence shortly after takeoff from Keene, NH on March 3. The plane diverted to Hartford.
https://www.wcvb.com/article/passeng...gland/43191524
https://apnews.com/article/turbulenc...7683ea26a0e855
https://www.wcvb.com/article/passeng...gland/43191524
https://apnews.com/article/turbulenc...7683ea26a0e855
Last edited by Lake1952; 5th Mar 2023 at 13:03.
It's very difficult to imagine how a SEATBELTED passenger can be fatally injured, but one wonders if those chartering private jets think they are somehow immune to Newton's Laws of dynamics.
I certainly recall an article a while ago of the large press party accompanying the USA President, not in AF1 but in a following chartered airliner, who said that quite a number of the journalists liked to smirkingly stand up during takeoff, because "it's our charter, so we don't have to do seatbelt rules and things. Yaa Boo !".
I certainly recall an article a while ago of the large press party accompanying the USA President, not in AF1 but in a following chartered airliner, who said that quite a number of the journalists liked to smirkingly stand up during takeoff, because "it's our charter, so we don't have to do seatbelt rules and things. Yaa Boo !".
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I will bet dollars to dimes that the passenger was not belted in, but we will just have to wait for further details.
Last edited by Lake1952; 5th Mar 2023 at 15:35.
It's very difficult to imagine how a SEATBELTED passenger can be fatally injured, but one wonders if those chartering private jets think they are somehow immune to Newton's Laws of dynamics.
I certainly recall an article a while ago of the large press party accompanying the USA President, not in AF1 but in a following chartered airliner, who said that quite a number of the journalists liked to smirkingly stand up during takeoff, because "it's our charter, so we don't have to do seatbelt rules and things. Yaa Boo !".
I certainly recall an article a while ago of the large press party accompanying the USA President, not in AF1 but in a following chartered airliner, who said that quite a number of the journalists liked to smirkingly stand up during takeoff, because "it's our charter, so we don't have to do seatbelt rules and things. Yaa Boo !".
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I couldn't see anything unusual from this flight record except that from takeoff from KEEN to landing at KBDL took 25 minutes, yet it reached FL 260.
https://flightaware.com/live/flight/.../KBDL/tracklog
https://flightaware.com/live/flight/.../KBDL/tracklog
Me, I wear a seat belt at all times, except for the walk to/from the loo and the loo doesn't have one.
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I believe he is saying that fools, who are unable to judge when to wear a seat belt, should just follow the rules, whereas "wise men" who understand the risks will (a) wear them even without rules, when appropriate and (b) will not wear them, again when judgement overrides the rule; thus the rule "guides" the wise.
Victim identified. It sounds from the quotes from her spouse as though passengers were thrown around the cabin. This implies no seat belts were being used.
Turbulence victim
Turbulence victim
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Maybe he just indicates that obedient fools tend to take off their seat belts when the light goes out
Greece's deputy foreign minister and five others were killed when the Greek Government-owned Dassault Falcon 900B presidential jet suffered an unexplained flight incident on descent into Bucharest, Romania on 14 September.The Falcon 900 (SX-ECH) descended rapidly from 15,000ft (4,600m) to 2,000ft, where the crew recovered control.
Although turbulence was blamed at first, local reports and the world meteorological centre at Bracknell, UK, confirm that there was no storm activity or extensive cumulonimbus cloud in that area, nor jetstream activity at that level.
The aircraft is operated by Olympic Airways for the Greek government. There were 13 people on board, and as well as the five fatalities, three passengers suffered severe injury. A journalist who was strapped into his seat reports that the aircraft was "moving like a boat in a rough sea", and that passengers had been thrown violently at the cabin ceiling.
Most of the passengers were not strapped in and the minister was standing when the incident occurred. A pilot who examined the aircraft on the ground after its arrival at Bucharest says that it did not appear to have suffered external structural damage.
Although turbulence was blamed at first, local reports and the world meteorological centre at Bracknell, UK, confirm that there was no storm activity or extensive cumulonimbus cloud in that area, nor jetstream activity at that level.
The aircraft is operated by Olympic Airways for the Greek government. There were 13 people on board, and as well as the five fatalities, three passengers suffered severe injury. A journalist who was strapped into his seat reports that the aircraft was "moving like a boat in a rough sea", and that passengers had been thrown violently at the cabin ceiling.
Most of the passengers were not strapped in and the minister was standing when the incident occurred. A pilot who examined the aircraft on the ground after its arrival at Bucharest says that it did not appear to have suffered external structural damage.
It's very difficult to imagine how a SEATBELTED passenger can be fatally injured, but one wonders if those chartering private jets think they are somehow immune to Newton's Laws of dynamics.
I certainly recall an article a while ago of the large press party accompanying the USA President, not in AF1 but in a following chartered airliner, who said that quite a number of the journalists liked to smirkingly stand up during takeoff, because "it's our charter, so we don't have to do seatbelt rules and things. Yaa Boo !".
I certainly recall an article a while ago of the large press party accompanying the USA President, not in AF1 but in a following chartered airliner, who said that quite a number of the journalists liked to smirkingly stand up during takeoff, because "it's our charter, so we don't have to do seatbelt rules and things. Yaa Boo !".
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Victim identified. It sounds from the quotes from her spouse as though passengers were throw around the cabin. This implies no seat belts were being used.
Turbulence victim
Turbulence victim
Preliminary Report N300ER
Key points:
Incident not caused by turbulence
Multiple AP/trim faults prior to upset
Upset event initiated due to pilot implementation of QRC for primary stabilizer trim fail
Upset g forces +4.2 to -2.3
1st takeoff attempt rejected due to right pitot tube cover installed
2nd takeoff no V-speeds entered
Both pilots under 100 hours in type
Key points:
Incident not caused by turbulence
Multiple AP/trim faults prior to upset
Upset event initiated due to pilot implementation of QRC for primary stabilizer trim fail
Upset g forces +4.2 to -2.3
1st takeoff attempt rejected due to right pitot tube cover installed
2nd takeoff no V-speeds entered
Both pilots under 100 hours in type
That airframe needs a complete structural inspection before it returns to service. It may even need to be scrapped...
