LATAM A320 ground collision at SPJC
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Clear collision with a fire truck on an emergency drill.
ATC Recording Ground: accident around minute 12:00
https://archive.liveatc.net/spjc/SPJC1-Gnd-Nov-18-2022-2000Z.mp3
ATC Recording Ground: accident around minute 12:00
https://archive.liveatc.net/spjc/SPJC1-Gnd-Nov-18-2022-2000Z.mp3
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It wasn’t a training exercise - there was a plane near the terminal with a problem which the firies were responding to. We don’t know enough yet, but either they crossed the active runway without clearance (unlikely), or ATC messed up and both the aircraft and the firies were given clearance at the same time.
If the firies were in emergency mode to get to the other plane it’s possible they didn’t hear ATC telling them to stop at the runway, or the call wasn’t made. All speculation of course, I’m assuming the plane was given takeoff clearance.
Terrible accident, but there are processes in place to stop this so somebody made a mistake. I hope it was the firies because at least they don’t have to live with the guilt, as horrible as that is.
If the firies were in emergency mode to get to the other plane it’s possible they didn’t hear ATC telling them to stop at the runway, or the call wasn’t made. All speculation of course, I’m assuming the plane was given takeoff clearance.
Terrible accident, but there are processes in place to stop this so somebody made a mistake. I hope it was the firies because at least they don’t have to live with the guilt, as horrible as that is.
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Clear collision with a fire truck on an emergency drill.
https://twitter.com/conflictsw/statu...314459141?s=21
ATC Recording Ground: accident around minute 12:00
https://archive.liveatc.net/spjc/SPJ...2022-2000Z.mp3
https://twitter.com/conflictsw/statu...314459141?s=21
ATC Recording Ground: accident around minute 12:00
https://archive.liveatc.net/spjc/SPJ...2022-2000Z.mp3
4:58 "rescue 6, authorized to approach 90 meters from the axis of the runway, the cones on the vehicle road."
8:03 "proceed, rescue 6"
8:58 "rescue 6, ground.... confirm, ground"
11:47 (crash broadcast) "rescue, I repeat, I repeat, rescue, aircraft crash on the runway, I repeat"
12:26 "rescue units authorized to enter the runway"
also sounds like a change of controllers at 2:27
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It appears from this footage above that the firies saw the aircraft seconds before crossing the runway and did all they could do slow down and turn. They died, but they saved the lives of everyone on the aircraft by not directly crossing in front of the plane.
If the ATC is correct, then this was a mistake by the firies which should never have happened but it could have been far, far worse.
If the ATC is correct, then this was a mistake by the firies which should never have happened but it could have been far, far worse.
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As a volunteer firefighter, I drove any of a number of different fire trucks to emergency calls, there is an adrenaline rush in the response, and you can let your guard down at the wrong time. I could drive at highway speed for fifteen minutes, so lots of opportunity for something to go wrong. We had very few bumps with the trucks during all those years, and none serious, but there were so many times it could have been really bad - particularly at train level crossings. Sad, very sad, and I have empathy for the firefighters, sometimes you just forget something....
For those times I have been flying TCAS equipped airplanes (uncommon for me) I've always been a little surprised and amused at proximity warnings about airplanes taxiing on a parallel taxiway when I was on the runway. I now see value for TCAS in all airport vehicles which could plausibly access a runway - the driver would at least get a warning!
For those times I have been flying TCAS equipped airplanes (uncommon for me) I've always been a little surprised and amused at proximity warnings about airplanes taxiing on a parallel taxiway when I was on the runway. I now see value for TCAS in all airport vehicles which could plausibly access a runway - the driver would at least get a warning!
Does anyone knows if Lima ARFFS operates under the policy "one runway, one language, one frequency", or not?
(at least in spanish, supposing both ATC'ers, Fiers and Pilots were spanish language-natives)
(at least in spanish, supposing both ATC'ers, Fiers and Pilots were spanish language-natives)
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https://archive.liveatc.net/spjc/SPJ...2022-2000Z.mp3
at 09:01 you can hear the controller saying: Rescate, confirmando ejercicio. “rescue, confirming exercise”
at 09:01 you can hear the controller saying: Rescate, confirmando ejercicio. “rescue, confirming exercise”