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Small plane crashes into empty building outside Milan, all 8 onboard die

Old 3rd Oct 2021, 15:11
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Small plane crashes into empty building outside Milan, all 8 onboard die

Just been reported.

https://www.reuters.com/world/europe...ie-2021-10-03/
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Old 3rd Oct 2021, 16:10
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Aircraft registered in Romania.
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Old 3rd Oct 2021, 17:09
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2015-built Pilatus PC-12.
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Old 3rd Oct 2021, 17:31
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https://www.flightradar24.com/data/a...r-pdv#295f5ded
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Old 3rd Oct 2021, 18:08
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PC-12 crash, Milan, Italy 3rd Oct 2021

Reports of a Pilatus PC-12 with 8 on-board crashing soon after take off from Linate airport.

https://www.euronews.com/2021/10/03/...n-milan-suburb
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Old 3rd Oct 2021, 20:02
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The empty building under construction that the PC-12 hit is directly across the road from a 6-storey car park that serves the terminus of the Milan metro line M3.



Could have been a whole lot worse.

Milano, precipita un ultraleggero: incendio a San Donato (mediaset.it)
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Old 3rd Oct 2021, 20:46
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Sad news.

Ironically, the crash site was in via 8 ottobre 2001, named to commemorate the previous Linate crash in which one of my wife's fellow Unilever employees died, along with 117 others.
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One of Romanias richest men according to this report.
https://www.italy24news.com/local/208989.html
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Old 3rd Oct 2021, 23:29
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That would have been sadly ironic had it been true, but it isn't (though it's not far away). The building hit is in Via Giuseppe ("Peppino") Impastato, opposite the Emilia MSCP (visible on Google Maps/GE though not yet on Streetview).

Incidentally the ADS-B data suggests that the PC-12 augured in from 5000'.
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Italian media spoke about an engine failure based on testimonies by people on the ground. I think that it's the usual emotional reaction to the shock of watching an air crash: "ball of fire", "trail of fire" etc. Looking at the data available on Flightradar24, it's clear that the engine was running (positive rate of climb, even if very unstable) and that the pilot didn't try to land again in LIML (he passed the threshold of runway 36 without descending). My guess: crew incapacitation; or incorrect air data due to failure of static and/or dynamic ports.
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One of Romanias richest men according to this report.
https://www.italy24news.com/local/208989.html
How many enemies did he make I wonder.
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Originally Posted by Gianni57 View Post
Italian media spoke about an engine failure based on testimonies by people on the ground. I think that it's the usual emotional reaction to the shock of watching an air crash: "ball of fire", "trail of fire" etc.
There are media reports citing CCTV images showing that the aircraft was on fire prior to impact, so not just eyewitness reports.
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Originally Posted by DaveReidUK View Post
There are media reports citing CCTV images showing that the aircraft was on fire prior to impact, so not just eyewitness reports.
If they are quoting then they should either publish the images or shut up. Because if they can't be produced, they most probably don't exist.
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Because if they can't be produced, they most probably don't exist.
The italian newspaper "Corriere dell Sera" writes today (5. October): "Nei filmati sulla tragedia di Linate non si vedono fiamme prima dello schianto sulla palazzina in ristrutturazione" (unfortunately the rest of the article is behind a paywall for me) which translates to: In the films taken from the tragedy at Linate there are no flames visible before the aircraft crashes into the construction site.
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If they are quoting then they should either publish the images or shut up. Because if they can't be produced, they most probably don't exist.
Fair point.

And one that, I'm sure you'll agree, could equally be applied to the quote about videos (as yet unseen) showing the aircraft wasn't on fire ...
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Interesting, I see it was recently fitted with an MT 7-bladed prop. New one on me, quietens the type down apparently. Having M-ARTY amongst others regularly zip over my house at 1500' or so, I wouldn't have said it was particularly noisy.
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Engine failures in SETís are rare unless itís been abused.
Owner flown, over temped on startup and took off anyway?
I have no PC-12 time, is it FADEC like everything else these days?
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Old 5th Oct 2021, 16:45
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Doesn't look on fire from what I see but that's a vertical dive.

Aereo caduto a Milano, il video dell'incidente: ecco gli ultimi due secondi del Pilatus in volo- Corriere.it

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The PC12 is high tech with FADEC and all the bells and whistles. This accident looks like loss of control inflight - probably the typical owner-pilot case?
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Originally Posted by starling60 View Post
Doesn't look on fire from what I see but that's a vertical dive.

Aereo caduto a Milano, il video dell'incidente: ecco gli ultimi due secondi del Pilatus in volo- Corriere.it

Hope video is visible to non subscribers.
Behind the Corriere's paywall, but the same dashcam stills are visible here.

Appears to support the ADS-B data that indicates a 10,000+ fpm ROD.
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