BAW492 diversion at Gibraltar
Direct Law and then lateral PIO seems very plausible as incident speculation goes. Something which this forum has thrived on from its very earliest days.
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Personally speaking, I would be surprised if the crew waited for a wind shear warning if the aircraft dropped into direct law on approach at most airports, and especially at GIB. It’s not a place where you can afford to muck around in with a medium size airliner.
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Co Pilot handling the approach-BA SOP. At some point a double R Alt. fault/indication occurred which put the aircraft into Direct Law. (aircraft handles like a normal non FBW plane)
The co-pilot flew the Wind Sheer Go-around.
The co-pilot flew the Wind Sheer Go-around.
We "survived", but I'm in a cold sweat writing about it six years later. If it genuinely was the fault suggested above, then my humble opinion is that it was very well flown given the circumstances.
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jcomm That's pilot induced, watch how the aeroplane stabilizes once the crew stops trying. If you adjust for the sound delay, wings go level immediately once go-around thrust is set.
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OBK! - do you have a reference for this statement? Does this mean that the autopilot was engaged during both the period of roll oscillation and during the subsequent recovery to wings level flight? That would pretty much rule out any further discussion of PIO for this one.
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OBK! - do you have a reference for this statement? Does this mean that the autopilot was engaged during both the period of roll oscillation and during the subsequent recovery to wings level flight? That would pretty much rule out any further discussion of PIO for this one.
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Not sure if this has been on here before but this is the long version from inside the aircraft and starts 36 seconds before the cabin crew are told to take their seat for landing
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Well, that all depends on what was going on at the time, doesn’t it? If you were in the middle of a windshear escape manoeuvre in an area well known for extreme turbulence in the prevailing conditions would you really increase your workload by taking the autopilot out? I’m not sure I would but then I wasn’t there at the time. None of us were.
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Hard to beleive the AP was on. It’s so stable regardless of the outside condition when AP is engaged and I beleive it would trip off in such case. But yeah, I was not there also.
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Very plausible with a set of crew who never hand fly... In the other hand I never saw or heard an A 320 behaving like this with AP. But I might be wrong. Let's wait for the final report. Hopefully we can access it.
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What report can we expect?
If there was a fault wouldn’t this be classed as a incident? The official explation is that it was caused by weather conditions.
I believe the aircraft flew back after we were dropped off at Malaga, would this confirm no issues with the aircraft?
It’s a pity that data on all abortive landings is not shared automatically.
Thanks everyone for sharing experience and theories. I will be back on this route next week, not the scariest landing I’ve had at Gibraltar in terms of weather but just sensed a loss of control on this landing.