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Midair Collision Near Waddesdon

Old 17th Nov 2017, 15:10
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Sky news photo shows wreckage of a white helicopter with an enclosed tail rotor.

https://news.sky.com/story/plane-and...shire-11130285
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Old 17th Nov 2017, 15:11
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An aerial news photo just showed the helicopter wreckage; shows a white Fenestron of Eurocopter design.

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I just had a second look at the photo (I purposely didn't say EC120 so as to not alarm anyone unnecessarily). It's not a Eurocopter; it's a very similarly-shaped "smaller" helicopter. Sadly, doesn't look good.
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Old 17th Nov 2017, 15:12
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Don’t over react children. I got what he meant. He was saying poor weather was unlikely to be involved
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Old 17th Nov 2017, 15:18
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The Mail is confirming G-JAMM

Helicopter and plane collide mid-air in Buckinghamshire | Daily Mail Online
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Old 17th Nov 2017, 15:18
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Ident of fixed wing aircraft involved clearly visible on BBC News photo (not allowed to post links yet but check out the BBC News website).

Looks like the earlier poster was right. Similarly, the helicopter previously mentioned was crossing the same spot on FR24 and suddenly stopped. Very sad.
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Old 17th Nov 2017, 15:19
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Indeed. The first question that seems to get asked on here, or the first opinion points at weather. The visibility today was perfect so it seemed worth mentioning before anybody not local asked or looked it up.
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BBC photo now shows a photo of the crash site, the aeroplane reg is plain to see
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Old 17th Nov 2017, 15:26
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The BBC aerial footage is concentrating on the tail section of a Cessna (172?) which appears severed from the fuselage.
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Old 17th Nov 2017, 15:29
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WACG is a 152. Helicopter is a Cabri.
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Old 17th Nov 2017, 15:40
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Heli crash site looks very contained from the pics
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Old 17th Nov 2017, 15:42
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Originally Posted by oversteer
A 152, G-WACG was overhead at about the same time, unless it just stayed below coverage altitude for the remainder of its flight
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/a...g-wacg#f8efef7
Fingers crossed for survivors
G-WACG Confirmed from photos of paint and now the Reg from overhead.
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Old 17th Nov 2017, 15:51
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From the pictures it looks like a Cabri from Helicopter Services Ltd at Wycombe air park
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Old 17th Nov 2017, 16:06
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It's notamed as a DANGER Area
not a Prohibition nor a Restriction
(the danger being midair collision presumably)

there is a warning PILOTS ARE FURTHER WARNED THAT ACTION MAY BE TAKEN ATANY TIME TO IMPOSE RESTRICTIONS OF FLYING REGULATIONS UNDER ARTICLE239
and a request (understandably) not to overfly

very sad for all concerned
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Old 17th Nov 2017, 16:09
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Light aircraft and helicopter midair near Westcott

BBC reporting midair between a helicopter and Cessna here

Aircraft and helicopter in mid-air crash near Waddesdon - BBC News

Thread on Rotorheads here

http://www.pprune.org/rotorheads/602...waddesdon.html
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Old 17th Nov 2017, 16:20
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We lost one of the industries gentlemen today.

God speed
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Old 17th Nov 2017, 16:27
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We sure did. At least I managed to share a cuppa with him yesterday.
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Old 17th Nov 2017, 16:27
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Originally Posted by oversteer
A 152, G-WACG was overhead at about the same time, unless it just stayed below coverage altitude for the remainder of its flight
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/a...g-wacg#f8efef7
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I'm afraid that registration is also visible on a photograph on the BBC website. It's a school aeroplane, so tells us nothing about who was on board.
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Old 17th Nov 2017, 16:30
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Fixed wing aircraft have such a limited field of view, you don't want to end up near and beneath one. They will never see you so best to keep far away and to let them know you are around.
Hope they get to see another day, sounds like such a avoidable situation.
Training flights gone wrong?
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Old 17th Nov 2017, 19:01
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Poor folks, it's sickening how easy this can happen and the enormity of the result.
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Old 17th Nov 2017, 21:22
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Yes, terrible shame.

I spent hours and hours above this area when instructing from denham and my biggest worry was always a mid air, just simply not seeing another aircraft.
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