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Safety around propellers

Old 15th Oct 2019, 01:59
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There is so much wrong with that accident:

- Did the “pilot” even do a preflight?
- “Pilot” should have shut down prior to exit.
Especially with a passenger.
- “Pilot” should have briefed his passenger which is really easy in a Cessna (stay behind the strut at all times even with the engine off. Walk around the wingtip to get to the door)
- Pax should have listened but was probably just trying to be helpful.

I’m typing “pilot” as he obviously isn’t.
The FAA should investigate and revoke his certificates.
Good luck helping your wife learn to walk again and wipe.

I have no sympathy for these types.
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Old 15th Oct 2019, 13:29
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In piloting, we consider "normal" and "abnormal" conditions. When presented with an "abnormal" condition, we exercise more caution, as an accident is more possible. A turning propeller, with people moving around near it on the ground, is an abnormal condition.

I expect that the FAA will speak to the pilot about the offense of not occupying the pilot's seat with the engine running.
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Old 15th Oct 2019, 22:56
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- Did the “pilot” even do a preflight?
- “Pilot” should have shut down prior to exit.

I'm guilty of forgetting to remove the chocks during my preflight. However, when I realized what was preventing me from moving, I did shut down prior to getting out and removing the chocks.

Most of my power-flying is on a gliding field where there are often people in relatively close proximity to the tow plane. I am always conscious of the potential need to quickly turn the mags off if anyone is approaching me.

However, I do have a lot of sympathy for the pilot. He has to live with the fact that his wife was severely injured because of his oversight/complacency.
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Old 18th Oct 2019, 05:15
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Everybody has forgotten chocks including me.
Its how you deal with an error or an oversight.
If anything this clearly shows that an accident is a chain of events and some accidents are years in the making (complacencies).

This was a rented airplane, they may have been delayed into a flight after sunset, renter may have been legal for night flight with passengers but not comfortable and so on.

Could have been many additional stress factors including the attitude/behavior of a passenger.
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Old 30th Oct 2019, 21:45
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The propeller arc is always live. Never EVER go there.
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