Well, you would know MC. You are involved with that level of management (how do you face yourself in the mornings...). You are correct. Without a serious disruption in the operation, you and your immoral brothers and sisters will never turn from your path of destruction. Whether or not we continue to put up with it is being resolved as we speak. I have faith in my colleagues, and most of us realise that only deliberate action against the evil you represent is the only way forward.