Originally Posted by
Pugilistic Animus
Fly offshore here in the US 12 miles from the coastline then turn back without A DVFR flight plan and you'll get a nice close up view of F15s or 16s...
That is most likely true, but saying that doesn't make the ADIZ 12 miles. The ADIZ has a very specific definition and it has very little to do with the extent of sovereign airspace. I'm not sure why you keep trying to defend your misconception, there's an abundance of information available on what an ADIZ is. Wikipedia, for example has a pretty good description of ADIZs, they also have a chart of the North American ADIZ and it's pretty clear that it has nothing to do with the 12 mile limit, in fact extends far beyond it in many places. Sometimes my friend, it's a lot easier to simply accept that you were mistaken, instead of trying to insist that you were correct, when all the evidence is telling you you were mistaken. This is one of those times.