Asked the Ground Eng. on a turnaround yesterday down in that neck of the woods so take it all with a pinch of salt. He was told they got the fuel a bit wrong, stooged around in the bad wx wondering whether to make an approach or hold till wx cleared or proceed to alt and simply ran out of gas. It was initially about an hours flight to destination. Deadsticked it into the river bed so not a bad outcome but three cheers for daylight. Including all the ones the media doesn't get to hear about best estimate is 26 hull losses in 9 years including this one for Garuda Indonesia. Anyone heard anything totally different?