Back to the Cessnas, I recall an article where slope soaring conditions near LAX were forecast but two glider pilots were unable to find a glider available; so, they rented a C150, got into lift and shutdown. Had one nervous restart, but got in some hours of soaring with only a few minutes on the Hobbs <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="biggrin.gif" />. . . . <small>[ 26 March 2002, 03:32: Message edited by: RatherBeFlying ]</small>