The union is strong at VS. Hang on is that the minority one or the majority one, I think it's the minority one? I have a few friends at VS and they don't paint the same picture as the chap above. They say it used to be good years ago but things have slipped quite a bit in recent years. I think without the Delta link things could potentially be a lot worse. It's hard to compare VS with BA they're very different entities in many ways not least in size and size matters in aviation.