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Old 29th Aug 2017, 23:38
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pilot9249
 
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Originally Posted by GICASI2
Because: the captain failed to apply thrust; the FO failed to ensure the thrust levers advanced to a GA thrust level as indicated on the EICAS; the captain rotated to the GA attitude before the FO called rotate (which he didn't) at Vref (and with no thrust, I doubt Vref was ever achieved); NEITHER noticed and called a negative speed trend; the FO allowed himself to become distracted at a critical time (!) and unquestioningly raised the gear lever on command. Lots of failures and a perfectly serviceable jet was destroyed.
You have described in graphic detail how many ways the crew failed. It's surely almost unimaginable that any crew could catalogue this absurd collection of failures. It's ridiculous. Unbelievable. WTF?

But it happened.

Let me pose a question.

If when pressing TOGA the automatics had enunciated "TOGA. Ignored.", would the outcome most likely have been harmed or improved?

Is there any way that this could possibly have made things worse?
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