Originally Posted by
ShotOne
Ian W, that argument may have be made but in no way proven: you base your case on (rare) situations where the automatics have failed and pilots have failed to intervene correctly. Who knows how a fully automatic system would have responded Hardly convincing!
Similarly your earlier post spoke of being on board an aircraft in fully automatic operation. No you weren't. The autopilot was human programmed and under full human control as was every aspect of decision-making for the entire flight including failure cases.
So the uploaded FPN from dispatch was written by the crew? The weight and balance was created by the crew? More and more you are passengers watching the automatics implement flights that were (or could easily have been) given the flight information uploaded automatically from dispatch rather then go through the intermediary of a flight crew - and the bean counters will point to the number of basic errors, like the one in this thread - failure to ensure that power was coming on and a positive climb before lifting the undercarriage.
There are many UAS operating that have not had problems of the kind that are always quoted. The argument made by crews will need to be significantly more convincing than "honest we deal with problems every day that the automatics cannot". Tell that to the people that have created UAS that do automated/autonomous air to air refuelling then recover to automated/autonomous carrier landings.