Originally Posted by
Bob Viking
heights good.
If you read back through the thread you'd see I clearly stated I have never fought a helicopter. It doesn't mean I can't have a decent understanding of the rigours involved though.
Please don't take this as a 'FJs are better than helos' crusade. Again, if you read back through the thread you'll see no one has started that.
One quick point to add though. I am well aware of how hard helos can be to spot/acquire. Maintaining tally with an aggressively manoeuvring helo would obviously be very challenging as well.
You mention about training how you fight. However, you also add that 2v1 the odds were not as good. Since FJs tend to always travel in pairs this gives you an idea that a raging singleton trying to get a guns kill on a helo is not necessarily how it would be done for real. What you saw was training for the worst case scenario for all parties. Obviously the best way to train. The fact does still remain that there's a very good chance a FJ may never acquire the helo in which case you have your 'win'.
Sloppylink mentioned how dangerous the Apache can be (I agree it is odd that we are discussing Typhoon vs Apache but I didn't start it!). I never argued that it wouldn't scare a FJ pilot to see rockets coming at him. I did argue that the chances of scoring a hit with CRV7 were slim. I don't believe that has been refuted yet.
Anyway, must get to work.
BV
Bob, To be clear, CRV-7 is merely the rocket motor that delivers a variety of payloads, your comments lead me to believe that you are referring to HEISAP that requires a direct hit for an effect. The payload I refer to is General Purpose Flechette. In simple terms, it fires from the aircraft to a safe point to prevent aircraft self damage and then dispenses 80 6" tungsten darts at a 5mil spread or at 1,000m (from point of dispertion), it covers 5m, 2,000m it covers 10m and so on - a little like shining a torch at a wall, the further you are from the wall, the larger the size of the beam appears on the wall. That is one rocket, although unusual in the extreme, it could be carrying 76 of the blighters but certainly not unusual to carry more than two. Fired at intervals, that would be a lot of bits of metal in the sky at the same time as the FJ that are advertised as capable of penetrating 1.5" of RHA.
You asked for AH input and have dismissed it.
I too have work to do.