Originally Posted by
MacSheikh
Lots of talk about lack of SA, but... SA depends on your perception.
If you haven't picked up the error, your perception is that you have the correct information and your SA is based on that.
Yes, we'd like to think we'd all have picked up the incorrect read back or the opposite traffic clearance. But, no one here was there to know what was happening, what other threats were there.
Oh, to be as perfect as some here!
Mac - we can only aspire.
What's disturbing is the assumption from the arm chair brigade above - that what we heard on YouTube is what was picked up by the Flt deck comm system on that 380 - even though no one here is privy to that CVR - or that they lacked airmanship & should have maneuvered without visual contact on a TA. Who knows whether they saw traffic? Air Sez maneuvered on a TA because they had visual (repeatedly stated in recording) and is part of the maneuver "if needed"
But the EK crew lacked airmanship from the posters above because...the said posters above - knew what that crew saw and heard that day!?
Look, the point is - they may well have FUBAR'd it completely & the Air Sez guys were spot on.
No one knows yet - so why not give our colleagues a little slack - because if it is their bad - they won't get much from the third floor who will hopefully gather ALL the facts before sentencing.