Actually...I think Tony is a young (perhaps well meaning) guy that had his "pride" wounded by the boss (read Commander)...and now is looking for a little support. What he SHOULD have done is have a talk with "the boss"...and he might well actually learn something.. .Some of the younger guys/gals might actually be surprised...to find out that the "older guys" really DO know the facts.. .So Tony....what are the parameters of the flight?