Originally Posted by
safetypee
The discussion appears divided between
retributive justice which considers who was responsible and restorative culture which asks what is responsible, (ref * )
Does the choice of view depend on being a pilot / non-pilot, military / non-military; and would an individual view expressed publicly be reversed if subject to such an event?
"The Just Culture in La La Land approach takes the retributive route, but gets it badly wrong." *
Has the CM in this incident taken an inappropriate route or just got it wrong ?
"In the end, we all have one job. Our job is to learn." *
What have we learnt, individually and collectively; what might senior management (mil / civil), or the overall military organisation have learnt?
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https://humanisticsystems.com/2017/0...in-la-la-land/
"A scapegoat, or safer systems? We can’t have both."
What chutney, sounds like you want a no-blame system, not a Just Culture.
Or is it just no-blame for the pilots?