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Voyager Plummets (Merged)

Old 11th Feb 2014, 12:07
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cessnapete They wouldn't ground Voyager it's a mature civil airframe??
They have now after the incident yesterday, fleet is grounded as I understand it. A lot of folks having an unscheduled holiday in Turkey
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Old 11th Feb 2014, 14:13
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So do we take it Voyager has a "problem"?
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Old 11th Feb 2014, 14:49
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Presumably,as AirTanker a civil company and some Voyagers operating on UK civil registration, it has to promptly report serious incidents to UK CAA for the info of civil operators of similar types. So there should be a prompt interim report soon?
Similar civil types do not appear to have been grounded.

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Old 11th Feb 2014, 14:53
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So do we take it Voyager has a "problem"?
8000ft decent in 30 secs, pax injuries, counsellors on scene, yep I think there was a problem
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Old 11th Feb 2014, 15:36
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Similar civil types do not appear to have been grounded.
They've not been modified though.
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That does not sound good- hope quick recovery for those hurt
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Old 11th Feb 2014, 16:40
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"8000ft decent in 30 secs"- 16000ft/min, that is more than AF447 achieved when fully stalled..
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Old 11th Feb 2014, 17:29
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I'm led to believe that the civy registered one that goes to the Falklands is still flying and that its the ones with mil regs that are grounded. Either way it's another case of all your eggs in one basket and when it goes wrong your left with nothing.
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Old 11th Feb 2014, 18:38
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8000ft or 2000ft?
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The latter.
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Old 12th Feb 2014, 08:50
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...an in-flight issue...

Such masterly understated prose from the MoD!

According to the statement, several passengers received 'minor injuries' and all military Voyager flying has been 'temporarily suspended' whilst this incident is 'fully investigated'.

Something serious enough to have caused passenger injuries and subsequently for the fleet to be grounded sounds to me to have been rather more than 'an in-flight issue'................

Perhaps we'll be seeing the TriShaw around for a while longer yet?

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Old 12th Feb 2014, 10:12
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This issue seems to have not made the news as far as Air Tanker are concerned..

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The 330 does have previous if it's this kind of event..

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Old 12th Feb 2014, 11:15
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From someone who was onboard, they were told 8000ft at the time, so severe was the sudden descent her ipad was ripped from her grasp and the screen smashed on the overheads. Told it was an autopilot issue at the time
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, so severe was the sudden descent her ipad was ripped from her grasp and the screen smashed on the overheads.

Along with numerous laptops, expensive camera equipment, designer watches.....
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red zebra, perhaps it was a rate of descent of 8000 ft/min? Which would have meant an event of around 15s, before the aircraft could be recovered from the descent.

Blue Bottle, see: Incident 9/2/14: Flight between RAF Brize Norton and Camp Bastion although it doesn't say very much. But so far, only MoD has stated that the military Voyager fleet is grounded....

TheWizard, I doubt whether those injured and scared witless in this air incident would find your 'humour' particuarly welcome.

No doubt this news won't be terribly welcome at the Singapore Air Show SINGAPORE: Airbus defence unit targets new sales, then airlift rival - 2/12/2014 - Flight Global
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BEagle - Thanks that was added quick then, maybe they do read this site..
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BBC News - RAF plane 'grounded' due to 'in-flight issue'
Only those Voyagers fitted with military Defensive Aid Suites or air-to-air refuelling have been affected.
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Thanks Beags - I hadn't realised (obviously). Perhaps the mentions of this event are a bit, shall we say, oblique in the Trimotor thread?

Was going to close this, but perhaps I'll wait and see....
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