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Old 12th Feb 2017, 23:06
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Liam Gallagher
 
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GTC58- ill informed drivel

GTC58,

I assume you are not a member of the HKAOA or AOAE. If you are, you should be ashamed that you have allowed yourself to become so uninformed.

1. The EU based pilots have a fully enforceable employment contract which covers base closure and redundancy. In respect of these two issues, the COS is not hugely different to the AOAC, USAOA and AAOA contracts, which is not surprising given that we all share a common seniority list and PBPA.

2. The EU based pilots are covered by UK employment law, irrespective of what may be in their contracts the Company will have to comply with UK law. There is no point "willy waving" what may or may not be in US/Canadian law, these guys are UK based.

3. The CMP is about building a Roster System. This doesn't necessarily lead to new RPS for anyone. Changes to RPs will only be needed if the CMS conflicts with RPs. Take a moment to read RPs, no matter which base you are on, the RPs are pretty vague and should the company wish to, they can probably circumvent RPs. What they can't circumvent anywhere (HK included) are the pay provisions. If you really are in the HKAOA, read some of the excellent stuff being written by the Australian CMP reps.... Very illuminating for all !!

4. Local laws require the Canadians and Australians to engage in good faith talks. However, the Company has set the bar pretty low as to what ".good faith talks" look like. Rather than suggest AOAE and HKAOA raise the white flag, why not suggest the other 3 unions show a bit of pilot unity and show up to the talks with folded arms and just stare at the two empty seats marked AOAE and HKAOA!! I'll leave you to decide if any of these slogans are appropriate;

United we stand; divided we fall.
The Company can only divide us if we let them.
Turkeys voting for Xmas.
Every based pilot is just a base closure away from being HK based.
Every based FO is just a Command course away from being HK based.
There is more that binds Cathay pilots together than separates us.

Fraternally.....
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