Originally Posted by Iccy
The in the jets I have flown the FMS flys over the holding fixed then rate one outbound, the "width" of the hold being determined by wind effect. Then the outbound leg is determined either by time or leg length in the FMS, the inbound turn varies with wind but not over rate one
That doesn't make sense (and certainly doesn't happen on my jalopy). If you have a hundred knot headwind into the HP, the outbound cannot be Rate 1 as there would be no chance of turning inbound anywhere near the HP inbound track.
The outbound turn into a headwind can be way less than rate 1 (sometimes only 5°) because it needs to go wider to allow for the tailwind on the inbound turn.