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Old 20th Dec 2016, 23:21
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Originally Posted by kalavo
ZOMG the sky is falling!

5 hours x $2000/hr in the plane... $10k

5 hours x $400/hr in the sim $2k, Flights for two people from Broome (about the worst case scenario with the sim in Melbourne?) <$2k, accommodation and allowances for two nights in Melbourne for two people $1k (cheaper options available, but lets keep it at round numbers).... so $5k.

Resulting in an extra expense of... -$5k. Might even be able to do better if you send two people down for the endo at the same time. Heck they can sit in the right seat while their sim buddy is doing their training and might learn more from others mistakes. Not to mention being able to give real engine fires at V1 in the sim, or any one of a number of system failures. Deal with a real event under pressure rather than casually talk about what would you do if...? Can't afford to lose your C&T staff for three days... might have to question your truck number there if you're CAR217, but if you're comfortable with it, can get the Sim centre to do the training and only lose the pilot you're getting endorsed.

Oh I get it... "What do you mean I can't train the pilot on the dead leg of a charter any more and get the customer to pay my expenses while still bonding the pilot for $12k?"

I disagree with a lot about CASA at the moment, but not this particular point. I've done endo's with and without the Sim.. the Sim was definitely a better endorsement despite being run by a less capable instructor. Those I've seen object to having to do endo's in the Sim, generally have never done one.
Sim available and booked 25/Jan/2017 $2,000
Broome - Melb - Broome x 2. 23 Jan - 26Jan $2,036
(only useable flight due flight and arrival times)

3 nights accom x 2 - 24,25,26 Jan $1,074
Allowances and taxis $800
Wages $1,856 4 days.
$7,766

Ok now consider the follow on costs- loss of revenue, repayments of idle B200 for min 4 days for example.

Also can you break down the $10,000 for 5 hours (a dry hire B200 is around $1,000 per hr last I checked) I worked on wages @$29 p/h.

Often people forget to consider that aeroplanes still need to fly on revenue flights to pay for sim training in far away places, they only forget they need to be paid until they are back after 4 days away and the award prohibits use of backpackers for accom.

** When the only available flights to and from Broome left tomake the sim booking date, are the ones that go via PER and BNE and take 18 and1/2 hours.

What is the minimum rest period required after the flight/s?
Also what is the minimum duty period for a day?

Full time B200 captian.


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