It's a horrible situation for all involved. I've been made redundant before and it was horrible and I've also been very close to it with my current employer. That said I don't think burying heads in the sand hoping the issues will go away is very healthy either. I don't really think anyone on here has an agenda or ulterior motive, I think they are just seeing it for what it is, and for there to be United 744s hanging around the Monarch network must mean something is very seriously wrong, and for any employee to think different they are maybe not in touch with reality. Monarch might not be going under, or they might be, either way something is very, very wrong. I wish everyone at Monarch all the very best in these uncertain times and I can only hope and prey you guys will come out the other end with a positive result.