ChinaBeached: You last comment, "C scale is here to stay" is exactly indicative of all that has gone wrong in CX since the mid-90's. The company has strategically undermined and destroyed the value of our contracts and we have collectively done nothing to stop them. Now, when we have finally implemented a strategy that has not only stopped CX from operating the airline as they wish, and put them on notice that there is a high expectation and insistence on obtaining a proper contract with proper work rules, out of our own woodwork the weak and easily cowed come to the fore. It might be worth reminding everyone that the US industry also went through the B scale phase back in the 90's as well. The big difference is that due to their employees resisting and fighting back, all the US majors ditched the B scale and now only have one proper scale. All with proper salaries, pensions, medical and travel benefits. We have gone from arguably the best airline in the world to work for to one of the unhappiest, most ill-managed airlines in the space of 20 years. Does anyone actually think that acquiescing to the plans of this management is going to result in a career worth investing your working life in? Of will it result in the modern day equivalent of the plantation worker, where you're beaten regularly and thrown a few pennies a day to work until you finally drop dead of exhaustion? I personally have no doubt which of those options represents the path CX is taking us on. Laying down and letting the AT's of the world get her way is a guarantee that you will either die on the job miserable, or have to find another career elsewhere before that happens. The ONLY strategy is to maintain resistance and unity and force CX to accept that the only way to run this airline is with the cooperation and mutual respect with it's highly trained aircrew. There can be no other option, for either party, no matter how long that takes.