Fact: one of my recently retired colleagues was asked by head of training to come back as a simulator STC, over a MONTH prior to the vote. Have NO doubt, the company had been planning and implementing this well in advance of the vote. They were doing this no matter how we voted. That should hopefully wake a few of you 'YES' voters up as to the nature of the beast. The only thing we have to move the terms of the debate in our direction is the current CC and TB. If we give that up without resolving any of the big issues, then no aspect of your 'career' will be safe from manipulation. Stay united and keep the pressure on. If any of you want to work for a company with any semblance of a proper contract, then we must see this through to the end. Dragon pilots took almost 4 years to effect the outcome they wanted. We've been going 19 months.