I refer to the alliances as opposed to individual airlines. I am not suggesting that Norwegian are much or any cheaper, rather that this is revenue that would have hit the bank accounts of the alliance airlines that is not now doing so. In many cases, flying to Lhr was the only option, e.g. London - Boston. Next year, some of those pax will use Lgw. And that revenue erosion will get worse if Norwegian starts to introduce more direct flights from local airports. I know that a hub system is marketed as a great benefit to us, but is a far bigger benefit to the airlines themselves. They must be starting to wonder about revenue erosion.