Wow, you regular posters never cease to amaze me. I have known PH for many years, he is very pleasant and well suited for the job. I also flew with the aforementioned F/O recently and after a lengthy discussion discovered that he is very, very tech savvy. So he is ideally suited for the job as tech pilot. Now I am acutely aware there ARE people in this company that our out to undermine the pilot group, but if you seriously think that these two people are a problem (when most in the fleet office do their best to protect us). Then your blind rage is clouding your ability to evaluate the situation properly. TGM