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Old 4th Jul 2003, 18:55
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EyeintheSky

Silly me! I'd never have thought of going vertical when there's wx about OR maybe it was you operating as the LYDD controller who gave me the said 3 aircraft 5miles abreast all level at FL160 (as it was then) I know that was the standing agreement at the time but there ain't much I can do with them when they've only just checked in and the centre one decides to take a 70degree turn to the left.. ah well...

Nod

Glad you mentioned good 'ole TCAS. There is an increasing number of pilots who seem to be fustrated controllers and use TCAS as a steering tool these days. I believe this to be a potentially dangerous development and have witnessed at least 3 airproxs over the past few years when pilots have used the TCAS for lateral separation.

As for delays, I hear today that you guys 'n' girls (or at least your companies) prefer to hold for 30 mins in the stack rather than take the delay on the ground?

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