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Old 1st Jun 2015, 08:40
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ChinaBeached
 
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I'm not quite sure where all the frustration toward the junior crew comes from. They didn't create the world they're [in].
They didn't create the mess they're in, no. But they sure as sh!t lined up and begged for it instead. So shat's worse? The bean-counter telling an adult to jump off a cliff, all the while the exact details of the results as well as those with experience warning them completely against it, but they still jump? You also mentioned bad parenting? Perhaps. Teaching someone that there's no quick 'n easy route to respect and professional success might be a start.

The frustration comes from, and from what a lot of experienced FO's, SFO's and Capts repeat on here and socially all the time, is that all too often it becomes a single pilot operation in sims or other flight events when the SO due lack of genuine experience hasn't a clue. Let's not forget the other frustrations of again what we hear a lot on this forum and other places at home regarding the constant whining about how tough it is to live on the C-Scale salary, blah, blah, blah when it's everything they asked and begged for. Or, "We'll all tell CX to shove and go to EK" (what with all those amazing P2X hours?).

Shoeebox: agreed. Just as an FO is an apprentice to the Capt, a senior VP an apprentice to the company president, and the DFO an apprentice to Gordon Gecko.... We can go on and on. But my point is that in our profession these CX C-Scale SO "apprentices" are entrusted to support and assist the PIC at the time during a 2 crew scenario, and to even act alone when the other needs to take a "physiological break". (Heaven forbid a TCAS RA event occurs??!!!!).

Whilst this has detracted from the main thread regarding the DFO and GMA position's it also highlights that non-pilots in managerial positions as such really have little to zero scope to appreciate the complexities, stressors and / or true realities of there job that they keep screwing down lower, lower and lower. Only someone completely out of touch with piloting a widebody airliner or a piece of dirt like RH would allow this kind of detraction in standards occur.
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