I can see where you lads are coming from- even with my limited experience. I started flying commercialy in late 2000 as a lowly flight instructor (still am). To me, the good old days are pre-9/11. Training has tanked ever since. I wish I had the oppertunity to have seen 'the good old days'. Flying still gets me excited but I wonder how much longer it will take before that fades with the current climate. Prospects are dim- but I'm hanging in there. My advice for the others with more experience is to do the same for as long as you can. I've had way worse jobs than this and have no desire to go back. You'll know when to throw in the towel the day you can't get out of bed and go to work. Until then, think of all the poor bastards like me that will never know half the pleasure in this job you had in the past- and be thankful for what you have had! I'm just glad I could get out of bed this morning- I'll see about tomorrow........Good luck to all.