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Old 28th Jan 2015, 21:57
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DozyWannabe
 
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Hold up - that's not proof, those are two of your own posts in which you seem to have derived your own theory based on your interpretation of flight surface deflection.

To the best of my knowledge there's nothing in the DFDR/CVR evidence which explicitly suggests any of the FCCs were turned off. Without either of those as supporting evidence, it must be considered as a strong possibility that your suggested disabling of FCCs did not in fact happen.

[EDIT : Some discussion went on on the next page of the thread - AZR wondered if the PRIM1/SEC1 FAULT messages tallied with the CVR (albeit very late in the sequence and not as a consequence of following any kind of procedure). I guess the question for me is whether manually turning them off would result in a FAULT ECAM message or whether it would say something different.]

[EDIT 2 : In fact, I'll quote AlphaZuluRomeo's response:

2 h 13 min 28,2
PNF : essaye de trouver ce que tu peux faire avec tes commandes là-haut (my note: the PRIM/SEC commands are on the overhead panel)
2 h 13 min 30,4
PNF : les primaires et cetera (my note: "primaires etc." may refer to the PRIMary and other computers)
CPT : (* fera rien)
2 h 13 min 31,5
CPT : on (fera /verra) rien

And then:
2 h 13 min 45 F/CTL PRIM 1 FAULT
2 h 13 min 51 F/CTL SEC 1 FAULT
...
The transcript show the PNF to want to "try" something with the "primary" (computers?) then the captain answering it will be no use, then the PRIM1 & SEC1 to be switched OFF.
Even that interpretation is vague enough to raise questions. If the PNF wanted to "try" something, was it simply turning PRIM1 and SEC1 off, or did he mean to attempt a reset (i.e. switch them off and back on)? In any case, all of this happened well after 02:12:30, which is the probable last timestamp in which recovery might have been possible given the aircraft's scenario.

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