Geoffers and Shetlander. The 'Naysayer Trio' with Vie on Lead Vocals backed up by Crab (repetitive soprano) and Jim (tenor) will always have a negative refrain so why not do what the rest of Bristow SAR has done and leave them to it. That way we don't have to keep looking to see if something constructive or informative has been added to the thread and can get on with training. Then if we need a good laugh we can have listen now and again.