I concur that we are divided AND conquered. Betpump- I may be a "muppet", but one with some experience here and some sense of reality. If you were serious about pushing back at the system you would already have moved to CC for which you already had a clear mandate from the vote held previously . So I question whether the AOA has any strength or appetite for a confrontation. If you DO elect to jump off a cliff then on the way down just glance around to see how many of your colleagues are still holding your hand. Been there, done that.