Ahhh, the CAP 509. Haven't heard that in a while. I was on one of the last CAP 509 courses before the JAA or JAR courses started. All I know was that apparantly the JAR licence exams were a lot harder when it first started. Don't know about now. Mind you, the CAP 509 course exams were not a walk in the park either. Whatever the case, at the end of the day you need that all important CPL IR and frozen ATPL for the jobs.