320DRIVER. .. .Yes as I said the commercials over the p.a. carried on even when it was evident there was something wrong.. . . .The thumbs up was for carring on regardless in a kind of British stiff upper lip type way! (except I think they may have been Spanish)!! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Roll Eyes]" src="rolleyes.gif" /> . .. .Its an interesting point about the p.a.'s. I reguarly fly a route operated by Ryanair and another carrier. There are fewer announcements on the other carrier, and people seem to take more notice - like not trying to collect their hand baggage out of the overhead as the aircraft turns off the runway for example!