RedWine.. All depends on where they want to go and what they want to do.. Getting their IREX and their ATPL(H) would be nice but that is a lot of cash and time and the big two won't touch them unless they have the min hrs req. Most other small operators couldn't give a rats if they did hold the subjects, even a bit sus to the fact that they might be using them as a stepping stone. Still the fact that there are more than plenty of pilots that bend over and take it up the pooshute just to get into the industry with low or no pay seems to point out the obvious that most of the newcomers will take any job that they can get.