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Old 23rd Jul 2014, 15:35
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Originally Posted by KatSLF
What do we have?
* claims of looting, removal of evidence etc originating with allegations from Kiev, who had nobody anywhere near there to know one way or the other
* claims from one OSCE source that they saw one piece being cut, blow up to allegations of removing a lot of parts (up to and including the fuselage??? these OSCE people think when a plane crashes from that height the fuselage will just lie there in one piece? what do they think all that burned up stuff is?
* with all that photography going on, nobody's caught a truck filled with aircraft scrap metal going anywhere
* a lot of screaming about "destroying evidence" accompanied by even louder demands for respectful treatment of the bodies..........
A lot of hysterical and unchecked and/or not-thought-about reporting - price we pay for our 24/7 instantly connected world. Mostly it looks like the locals are doing the best they can with what they have got. Has someone somewhere nicked something from the scene ? - probably, but it's not like that has never happened anywhere else in the world.

"where are the black boxes, why aren't they handed over, they've gone to Moscow" ... black boxes retrieved and handed over ... "OMG, they cut up the rear section of the plane"

"why are they leaving the bodies out in the wreckage" ... bodies retrieved ... "OMG, they cut open the cockpit"

Now we have photographs and videos. Some from unknown or dubious sources, too, but if we can see it is from the correct site, and we ascertain we're getting it in context, not edited "grabs", we can start to see for ourselves.
This is the flip side of the site not being secured and journos (pro and am) crawling all over it. It won't be pleasant for the relatives but it means there is plenty of photo and video evidence from multiple independent sources. Would it really have been better if it had come down across the border with the site locked down by the Red Army, the black boxes in Moscow and the only site photos released via the Kremlin ?
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