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Old 23rd Jul 2014, 14:14
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KatSLF
 
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Pictures or it didn't happen

What do we have?
* claims of looting, removal of evidence etc originating with allegations from Kiev, who had nobody anywhere near there to know one way or the other
* claims from one OSCE source that they saw one piece being cut, blow up to allegations of removing a lot of parts (up to and including the fuselage??? these OSCE people think when a plane crashes from that height the fuselage will just lie there in one piece? what do they think all that burned up stuff is?
* with all that photography going on, nobody's caught a truck filled with aircraft scrap metal going anywhere
* a lot of screaming about "destroying evidence" accompanied by even louder demands for respectful treatment of the bodies.......... while the bodies were being decently found, marked, bagged and taken into refrigerated storage. No "experts" turned up in 12 hours (or 48) with refrigerated vans, body bags, gloves, masks or even crime scene tape, did they? nor is there any global organization who have monopoly rights to picking up dead bodies at air crash locations. They are ALWAYS picked up by whoever the local civil authority is. Now, suddenly, 100 bodies "go missing" ? you'd think the inspectors who went into the carriages might have noticed nowhere near enough bags?

So, we have a lot of claims originating from dubious sources. I don't mean possibly biased ones. I mean ones who cannot possibly KNOW either way. Either from not being there or from being too ignorant.

Now we have photographs and videos. Some from unknown or dubious sources, too, but if we can see it is from the correct site, and we ascertain we're getting it in context, not edited "grabs", we can start to see for ourselves. The internet is full of smartphone videos; if big pieces of wreckage were carted away, there'd be a movie of them taking it.

There is so much propaganda and disinformation going on, any claim not backed up by pictures should be taken with a huge lump of salt. (And then check the image isn't fake, too).
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