Thanks for that link Capt K. All the trolls and many others should have a read, personally I have been very concerned about redundancy out of seniority but it has alayed those fears somewhat. The Kendall case makes interesting reading and is a very different to scenario to QF at the moment. Thats not to say QANTAS could end up mounting a case as per the Kendall decision but it would just take a lot more incompetent management to get there which from first hand experience is possible.