Yes CU, I was there, listened to the first speech from himself that was a little bit credible. He actually did very well, talked to us like grown ups for a change. And, maybe a teensy bit, I was stirring the pot. But the fact remains that cargo is flat out at the moment and forecast to remain so for some time. They are keeping us afloat. Would it be reasonable to expect them to take a compulsory pay cut and no time off, whilst the remainder of us work less and/or get time off? The AOA will need to be very laterally minded for a while, whoops I jest, that is a contradiction in terms. I hope we continue for a few more years I have enjoyed your posts and the reaction they attract.