Had hoped that, as a professional controller, you might say that...!!! However, from your earlier post it wasnt clear with the way that you wrote it. At least we have cleared that bit up! As I said, didnt wish to teach you to suck eggs....!! And, yes, from a pilots perspective it always beggas belief if I see a colleague blatantly not following speed control. It IS, however, a very dynamic environment with a VERY unforgiving management if you do screw up so this might go some way in explaining why the chaps slow down earlier to guarantee stabilisation criteria. Granted though, some blokes do take the p*ss.....not excusing nor condoning their behaviour.