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Seniority is not perfect but is better than brown noses.
Yeah, Brown noses. It's inevitable that derogatory terminology like this gets interjected into these discussions. The thing is when you start looking at what is meant by "brown noses" it becomes apparent that it's generally just a term for "being a decent employee". Things like showing up on time, not being pointlessly antagonistic to management, not being late with your expense reports, keeping up to date on your assigned online training, things like that. IOW, "brown nosing" seems generally to be a word for "not making extra work for the chief pilots office"
I really resent having to periodically re-complete the company's online Sexual Harassment training module. It's stupid and insipid and a waste of my time. But for whatever reason the company has decided that they want me to do it every year or 2 years or something like that. And that's part of what they expect in return for giving me paychecks. As annoying as I find it, it takes me 5 minutes to do. So when it pops up on my training assignment list, I do it. There are others who don't, so they show up on the radar at HR, and so HR puts together a list and sends it to the chief pilots office, and he has to send around a memo. And some still don't do it, so another list is compiled, and the Chief pilot has to make phone calls. Me, I choose not to pointlessly make extra work for others in the company by not doing the parts of my job that I don't like. If that makes me a "brown noser" that's cool.
My company recently had to scale back a little. As a result we lost a few really good guys off the bottom of the seniority list. But higher up on the seniority list are some chronic problem children; chronic sub-standard performance in the sim, showing up unprepared for training, numerous memos generated from the chief pilot's office, (some for operational safety issues), incompetence on the radio, stupid behavior on lay-overs, chronically unable to get manual revision sheets signed and returned as required, etc. etc. Never quite enough to fire them, but always creating headaches and extra work.
Anyone who is being honest knows these people exist, and knows who they are at their company. So, why when you have to furlough pilots should a company be required to lay off good, competent people who do their jobs diligently and well, and at the same time retain marginally competent employees who are continually causing problems extra work for their co-workers and managers? If those paychecks were coming out of your bank account, which would you prefer?
Originally Posted by
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The only way they can get better pay is to organize, just ONE union for everyone, get rid of the scabs and strike. If you want to be treated like an adult act like one. Balls to the walls kids and strike. Every other way is fantasy.
Yep, just like Comair pilots did. Right on brothers!!!!.
BTW, how's are they doing these days?