I agree with herkman ref the incomparable C130. The fatal firefighter crash can not be attributed to the crew or the basic design. IMHO he crash report makes clear the reasons for this unfortunate accident. I believe the RAAF have the best safety record of any C130 military operator regardless of mark. Only flew in an 'A' once, with the RAAF and there were major differences between that and our 'K' models. Had a conducted tour of an AC130A gunship in Thailand during the Vietnam war. Very impressive.