When will you lot realise that the AOA is another tier of Cathay management. They are there to give the illusion that we have control through democratic means, we don't! It's a bit like politics you can pick a candidate but who selects the candidates put forward? Nothing will ever get better here, I've been here long enough to realise that now. It's not just Cathay but an industry wide problem, we are no longer valued it seems. Pilots exist to make a management class wealthy or so it seems.