Originally Posted by
lilflyboy262...2
I'm sorry, but when it comes to the safety of flying my loved ones around, I want the best person for the job sitting up front, and not someone who is there because they are local.
It's no different to if I was going under the knife. If we were talking about filling cups at Tim Hortons, or working at an accountancy firm, then I totally agree and there is no reason for locals to not be working those jobs.
I love Canada and its people. And I had an amazing time there. I can't speak any higher of the people there, but I have had some shockers of both co-jo's and captains.
Most of the co-pilots I flew with had no idea about icing, and some captains had no idea about basic NDB work. This local knowledge stuff is crap.
Someone who grew up flying in the GTA has no idea what its like only a 12hr drive north.
Culture? Right so ripping on natives is the correct way to go about cultural sensitivity?
There is a lot of work available in Canada for new pilots. They just have to go out and find it. Most will turn their nose up at a C206 up north, or at working the ramp or dispatch for a while.
I'm just a firm believer in hiring the best suited for the job. Not the cheapest, not the most entitled. But the best.
If they are legally allowed to be employed by my company, then all the power to them.
Solution. Be better than the other guy.
The problem with India was not the amount of Indian pilots available. There is more than enough of them world wide. The problem is in the training and the corruption. We all know the costs involved in failed line training or an accident.
So yes. Expats are standing on the heads of local pilots who are in turn having to look elsewhere. Such as Canada.
The same problem is throughout Africa as well. Look at the situation in Southern Africa now where you have to have minimum of 500 to 1000hrs as an expat before they will allow you to get a work permit.
Usually the person who is first to scream protect the local pilots, are the first ones to complain when they can't get a job overseas. I've seen it with my own eyes in my travels. You actually have no idea how LUCKY you have it in Canada.
Try starting off in a place like New Zealand. GA is non-existent. You can't fly single pilot IFR until you have 750hrs. The only two crew ops are the major airlines who wont hire until at least 1500hrs.
Can't do Parachute Ops until you have 200PIC. Can only instruct, but only after you have got to 250hrs. Most companies will offer a job, for free, instructing for the first 6 months while you are under supervision, then you are out.
Only 20% of Kiwi pilots ever make it commercially.
I still can't get over my first Canadian co-pilot who had 500hrs, no multi or turbine time, and was bitching about being on a Caravan in a crappy little northern town, and that he should be on at least a 1900.
I had to leave my country and fly C206s in the desert of an African country until 1000hrs minimum before I was allowed near a C208.
@Big Pistons, your post is a bit hypocritical don't you think? Saying you don't care what he thinks, but then thinking he is condescending and immature for implying the same thing to people who want to put him down?
I'm not trying to wind you up. I have read a lot of your posts over on Avcanada and have a lot of respect for your opinions.
More twaddle.
I've worked with pilots from many parts of the planet during my career. I could wax rhapsodic about their varying skill levels and personal attributes, but I don't make a habit of throwing some colleagues under a bus. Let's just say that I've seen great and bad among them all, including Kiwis. Welcome to the human condition.
None of this has anything to do with the discussion at hand. But since you love to tilt at windmills, let me remind you that you come from one of the most protectionist nations on the planet when it comes to the labour market. Pots and kettles and all that.
There are many, many examples of pilots from foreign lands who are employed at Canada's largest operators. I come across them on a regular basis in my current job. They all came here and earned a place through hard work and perseverance and unlike in many other places, none of them will be sent packing in a few years time when a Canadian-born pilot is ready to take their spot.
You say you love Canada, yet you come on here and suggest that it has some back woods anti-foreigner aviation industry. The facts do not bear that out. We're all human and we all do our best to protect the home turf. That too is part of the human condition.