I agree, but it seems these folk are never on the GC and comments made only ever pertain to the inadequacy of our contract/s versus those of US airlines. It may be useful to a point, but at this point it seems the best thing for these guys (and the rest of us) is to leave. The whining will cease, which will make me happy. They will have a better job (in their eyes) which makes them happy - and finally, it may send a message to the company, which helps all of us.