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Old 25th May 2013, 10:22
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If I read the New Zealand ATPL AC61-7 correctly and have interpreted your experience correctly you don't qualify for a New Zealand ATPL.

For an NZ ATPL to be issued on a foreign ATPL you need to comply with the following:

Quoting from AC61-7

A current ATPL issued by an ICAO Contracting State may be accepted as the basis for meeting the eligibility requirements under rule 61.253 for the issue of a NZ ATPL.

For this to occur the following applies:

• The foreign pilot licence holder must meet flight experience equivalent to that required under rule 61.253(a)(4) as detailed in Appendix I of this Advisory Circular. Normally a current foreign ATPL meets this requirement.

• A current foreign ATPL will normally be accepted as meeting all written examination passes for rule 61.253a)(5)( except for air law, if the applicant also produces evidence of having completed at least 500 hours as pilot-in-command or 1000 hours as co-pilot. This flight time must have been attained in countries under the jurisdiction of the foreign authority that issued the ATPL:
- in multi-engine, multi-crew aircraft; and
- on commercial IFR multi-crew operations; and
- after the issue of the respective foreign ATPL that has been presented for this purpose.

NOTE: A foreign ATPL holder who does not meet the post licence issue requirements as detailed is required to gain credits for all written examinations in accordance with rule 61.253(a)(5).

• The foreign ATPL holder is required to pass a NZ ATPL issue flight test in accordance with rule 61.253(a)(6).


The hours requirements mentioned above are:

Quoting from App 1 of AC61-7

Pilot-in-command:

i) 250 hours in aeroplanes as pilot-in-command including 100 hours of cross-country navigation of which 25 hours is to have been at night; or

ii) 250 hours in aeroplanes consisting of 150 hours or more as pilot-in-command and additional command practice flight time as required; and

iii) 100 hours of cross-country navigation of which 25 hours is to have been at night. 50 hours of night cross-country navigation time command practice meets this 25 hours night crosscountry requirement.

NOTE: Command practice is time gained in accordance with rule 61.31(b). No more than 50 percent of the total command practice flight time may be used for paragraph ii) mentioned above.


The way I see it you would need to do the Air Law exam and a flight test at the very least.

If you don't have at least 150 P in C (including 100 P in C crosscountry) and/or you don't have the 500 hours P in C or 1000 hours Co Pilot post ATPL issue in the jurisdiction that issued the ATPL then you have to do all the exams and a flight test.

If you don't qualify for a New Zealand ATPL I'm not sure exactly what licence you would qualify for on this side of the Tasman since you have gone the MPL route.

The one thing that may get you around all of this is the TTMRA (Trans Tasman Mutual Recognition Agreement), who knows.

I know some outfits take a dim view of Kiwis going to OZ to write the OZ ATPL exams to get an OZ ATPL (currently no flight test required unlike in NZ) to then convert back to a NZ ATPL under TTMRA.

I guess what I'm saying is most outfits on the side of the Tasman will probably be very cagey about employing you. There may be one exception however they have their own cadet programme and you're too qualified for that.

Last edited by 27/09; 25th May 2013 at 10:44.
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