Dan and the rest of the whiners..even on B,C,D scales..HKG is what you make of it..and some of it is PDG..even now. if you're a water freak..even if you can't afford a Tayana 55, get a cheap kayak and take a look around the coast. Join a hash, paddle club, coasteering mob..climb, paraglide or hike. I know teachers on a fraction of a second officers salary who love HKG, treasure what it has and flip what it hasn't....as one post said..if all you have is prune and eternal whinging.......